Nancy tells her story about the devastating effect of the Watchtower's policies on her family.
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Quite the story
by Lee Elder innancy tells her story about the devastating effect of the watchtower's policies on her family.. http://www.4jehovah.org/nancy-ex-jehovahs-witness/.
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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Should doctors tell JW patients that there is disagreement about Watchtower's blood policy.
by Lee Elder inthis has been a controversial issue among doctors and medical ethicists.
i think it basically comes down to the fact that physicians have a responsibility to establish the presence of informed consent.
is it really possible for a person to give informed consent if they are not accurately informed?.
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Girl next door - yes, thank you. -
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Should doctors tell JW patients that there is disagreement about Watchtower's blood policy.
by Lee Elder inthis has been a controversial issue among doctors and medical ethicists.
i think it basically comes down to the fact that physicians have a responsibility to establish the presence of informed consent.
is it really possible for a person to give informed consent if they are not accurately informed?.
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Lee Elder
Link disappeared here it is:
http://ajwrb.org/blood-transfusions-what-are-the-risks
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Should doctors tell JW patients that there is disagreement about Watchtower's blood policy.
by Lee Elder inthis has been a controversial issue among doctors and medical ethicists.
i think it basically comes down to the fact that physicians have a responsibility to establish the presence of informed consent.
is it really possible for a person to give informed consent if they are not accurately informed?.
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Lee Elder
You are more likely to be struck by lightening or die of a bad reaction to an antibiotic than you are to die from a blood transfusion. WT implanted phobias and misinformation on blood persist in the EX JW community, I see it all of the time. Get the facts.
Blood Transfusions - What are the risks?
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Should doctors tell JW patients that there is disagreement about Watchtower's blood policy.
by Lee Elder inthis has been a controversial issue among doctors and medical ethicists.
i think it basically comes down to the fact that physicians have a responsibility to establish the presence of informed consent.
is it really possible for a person to give informed consent if they are not accurately informed?.
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Lee Elder
Fisherman: Your comments tap into the commonly held belief among JWs that blood is contaminated and unclean. Same "purity" notions drove the vaccine and organ transplant bans. Blood is a liquid tissue transplant and carries well known risks just like other tissue or organ transplants. In all cases, these are only considered in serious, life threatening circumstances. Watchtower implanted phobias and notions of uncleanness or contamination are without scriptural merit, and primarily serve as control mechanisms to generate revulsion and compliance imo. -
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Should doctors tell JW patients that there is disagreement about Watchtower's blood policy.
by Lee Elder inthis has been a controversial issue among doctors and medical ethicists.
i think it basically comes down to the fact that physicians have a responsibility to establish the presence of informed consent.
is it really possible for a person to give informed consent if they are not accurately informed?.
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Surprisingly little I'm afraid. The U.S. is far too accommodating of irrational religious based views. -
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Anthony Morris Says The Governing Body Is Not Dogmatic, But Simply Must Be Obeyed If You Want Jehovah's Blessing
by Brokeback Watchtower inwarning lots of compartmentalization going on, with huge leaps in logic and a whole lot of just beleive me because i say so.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhyfm-zikbq.
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Carla - they are trained to appreciate the "pure language". -
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Should doctors tell JW patients that there is disagreement about Watchtower's blood policy.
by Lee Elder inthis has been a controversial issue among doctors and medical ethicists.
i think it basically comes down to the fact that physicians have a responsibility to establish the presence of informed consent.
is it really possible for a person to give informed consent if they are not accurately informed?.
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This has been a controversial issue among doctors and medical ethicists. I think it basically comes down to the fact that physicians have a responsibility to establish the presence of informed consent. Is it really possible for a person to give informed consent if they are not accurately informed?
The Watchtower has made some improvements in this area, but still have a long ways to go in my opinion. A good place to start would be by publishing accurate statistics on the effect of anemia in JW populations, and acknowledging the well known limitations of "no blood" alternatives. Particularly in cases of child birth complications, blood disorders like leukemia, and trauma.
Here is what one prominent medical ethicist has suggested for fellow physicians. What do you think? Does it go far enough or too far?
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Creative day 7000 years, is this correct and how did the Org come up with this idea?
by Crazyguy inany body know?
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Lee Elder
The last direct reference to a 7000 year creative day I can recall was in the reference book "Aid to Bible Understanding" circa 1971. It was replaced by the two volume "Insight on the Scriptures" and definitely backed away from the doctrine.